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Wed, Sep.29.2004:10:30 PM

MythBusters: Solar Death Ray, Skunks, What is Bulletproof?

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Update: the MythBusters have revisited the Archimedes Death Ray in season three (still busted)

Woohoo! MythBusters is back after a few false starts. In addition to busting a couple more myths, this episode also added to the Jamie mythos, including:

  • Jamie has a flamethrower in his office
  • Jamie has traveled around the world on his sailboat (offhand comment by Adam as he was wearing a fake bushy mustache to depict Jamie after his long voyage)

Of course, at this point, they may just be blurting stuff out to setup the eventual Jamie mythbusting episode.

The first myth was advertised as the oldest myth they've ever busted, going back all the way to the 3rd century BC and Archimedes. I didn't really know that much about Archimedes beyond his buoyancy principle, but, as I found out, he was a great mathematician and inventor of the catapult, lever, and compound pulley (block and tackle). One of his attributed inventions, though, is considered a little more dubious.

As the myth has it, during the Second Punic Wars, Archimedes built his 'burning mirrors,' which was an arrangement of mirrors that was capable of focusing a ray of sunshine on approaching ships and setting them aflame.

After testing bronze and various other reflective materials, Adam settled on making a 400 sq ft mirror using 300 individual mirrors arranged in a circular configuration, with all of the mirrors focused on the same point at a 60 ft distance. Apparently, mirrors can put out 30kW/sq ft, which means that their mirror could theoretically put out about 600 degrees of heat.

Adam had some of the new crew build half a trireme, which they had an interesting time balancing in the water. With their giant mirror raised, they were able to bring up the temperature to 200 degrees. The crew raised some additional sheets of reflective material, but was only able to get the temperature up to 280 degrees. Jamie was even able to stand directly in the beam, as the mirrors simply weren't focused enough.

The mirror met a fateful end dropped onto the pavement, and the boat met a similar fate as they were unable to burn it to ash using flaming arrows and Molotov cocktails. busted

Read on for details on the skunk and bulletproof myths.

Skunks decontamination

Fun fact: skunk spray is made up of 'thiols', which is responsible for some of the bad smell of decomposing flesh and feces.

In the tradition of the stinky pigs, Jamie and Adam volunteered to get skunked in order to test various stink remedies. The only problem was it's a lot harder to get skunked than you might think. Critter control brought by three different skunks, but Jamie and Adam were unable to get any of the three to spray them while they jumped and battered their cages. As Adam said, they must have encountered "Buddha reincarnated as a skunk." More likely, the skunks, having already been captured either used up their spray or couldn't possibly be more frightened. They even tried synthetic skunk spray, but discovered that it loses its pungency fairly quickly.

They finally got some skunk spray by releasing the third skunk in the women's bathroom, though after trying a couple of the remedies, they had to revert to the synthetic spray for some of the testing. Scottie Chapman served as both smell tester as well as female Adam, delivering this segment's colorful dialogue.

Results of the various cleansers:

  • Tomato juice: smelled like a "bloody mary," but no skunk. plausible
  • Beer (MGD): used to cleanup bathroom where skunk sprayed. "Smells like the men's room at a dive bar." busted
  • Douche: Adam took a swig to verify that it's composed vinegar and water. "Not so fresh." busted
  • Hydrogen peroxide + baking soda + liquid dish soap: it worked. Apparently the mixture releases oxygen compounds that bond with thiols and neutralize their smell. confirmed
  • Commercial skunk remover: worked, but not as well as the hydrogen peroxide mixture. ok

What is bulletproof?

Adam and Jamie took shots at various items that at one time or another have been claimed to have bullet-stopping power. The .22 rifle is a pretty weak gun, so if the item didn't stop it they didn't bother moving up to the .357 magnum.

  • Book (.22 rifle): bullet made it through 400 pages.
  • Book (.357): Adam missed with multiple shots, but Jaime's shot went straight through
  • Deck of cards (.22): bullet went straight through
  • Zippo (.22): bullet went straight through

After dispensing of the less-plausible bullet-stopping material, they then looked at polycarbonate sheets. They frequently use 1/4" polycarbonate to form their blast screens, and Adam delighted in showing a clip of Jamie saying that the polycarbonate "will stop a bullet."

1/4" polycarbonate isn't bullet-proof, but to show demonstrate that polycarbonate can be, they tested both the 1/4" polycarbonate that they use and a thicker, bullet-resistant-rated sheet.

  • 1/4" polycarbonate (.22): bullet went right through
  • Bullet resistant (.22): stopped bullet
  • Bullet resistant (.357): stopped bullet. Energy from blast was spread outward from point of impact.
  • Bullet resistant (.44): stopped bullet. Even wider energy dispersion into the polycarbonate.
  • Bullet resistant (Springfield .30 aught six (.30-06) (bullet)): went straight through

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Thiols (which we have in our sample buffer in lab, as they help denature proteins) aren't the worst part of the smell of dead things. For that, you want something like putrescene:

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Putrescene

This stuff is horrible. Thiols just smell sulfury. Putrescene reaches out and jams its fingers down the back of your throat.

Posted by: Alex at September 30, 2004 11:37 AM

Hmm, they did mention that thiols are added to natural gas so that you can detect leaks. I'm not sure that I would want either around, though I am kinda use to skunk smell from driving around Palo Alto and Los Altos, which have plenty of dead skunks on the road.

I wonder if there's any putrescene in stinky tofu :)

Posted by: kwc at September 30, 2004 11:40 AM

Actually, the stinky tofu did smell rather like putrescene, though the putrescene was worse (note my not vomiting at the table...).

Posted by: Alex at October 2, 2004 07:45 PM

Re: Bullet proof. There are a few instances where people have reported that a silk scarf stopped a bullet-reason: silk is much stronger than steel. The silk needs to be loose enough to catch the bullet and travel with the bullet into a simulated flesh target.
Re: archimedes death ray. I have a hunch the mirrors would have been mounted inside a parabolic shape like a large sat dish. You definitely should not stand at the focal point!!!!

Posted by: claude at October 31, 2004 06:14 PM

I'm curious about the bullet-proof zippo thing. Don't they make zippos out of different materials? (ie: Copper, brass, etc.) and would this have an effect on it's bullet-proofyness?

Also, What ranges were the zippos tested at? I imagine a rifle at point blank range might have a different effect than a rifle at a few hundred feet.

Just thought I'd ask before I go about making my bullet-proof zippo vest.

Posted by: Jeffrey MacHott at March 11, 2005 08:51 AM

Concerning the Solar Death Ray, check out www.solardeathray.com.

Posted by: Homer at March 23, 2005 11:24 AM

25 years ago, my brother who managed a plastics fab shop, shot at a half inch (thick) piece of polycarbonate with his 357 mag, and the bullet bounced off, and back at him!

Freaked him out!

Posted by: Derek at March 23, 2005 09:58 PM

A few points.

1. People have succesfully duplicated archimede's death ray. It is plausible.

2. It true that a deck of cards or a zippo are not likely to stop a bullet of even a small caliber, but they may deflect a bullet if it is not coming square at the target.

Posted by: jon at October 7, 2005 07:51 AM

A .22 cal Long Rifle fired from a rifle is not as weak as you may think. Plus you are dealing with a bullet with a small cross-sectional diameter. This is the reason behind armour piercing sub-caliber fin stabilized discarding sabot rounds that are fired from a tanks main gun. These rounds, known as a Kinetic Energy Penetrators, can easily punch through armor whereas a larger diameter round cannot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_ballistics
http://www.answers.com/topic/terminal-ballistics

Posted by: Angel Elf at October 9, 2005 01:10 PM
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